All are the same; but they must not be confused with the 8mm Mannlicher-Schoenauer cartridge which differs in length, shape and ballistics. Used by the paramilitary Rifle Union, the rest were kept in the storage and were re-barreled before World War II. Payment Condition Some of them were modified to use the stripper clips used with the Gewehr 98 by milling a slot into the left side of the action and adding stripper clip guides on the top of the receiver. This system was used in almost all Mannlicher designs and derivatives, and while it allows for speedy reloading, it also creates an entry point for dirt. The 8.08mm (.318 in) bullet diameter however remained unchanged. In 1886, fifteen years after their defeat by German forces in the Franco-Prussian War, the French Army introduced the new Lebel magazine rifle firing an 8mm high-velocity projectile propelled by the new smokeless powder. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The compression of the bolt lugs, their seats and the removable bolt head, require headspace attention they seldom get. For the modern rifle lover though, Haenels in their many guises offer an opportunity to own a rifle of stellar quality for not much money. Small quantity made just after WW1 for commercial consumption until 1921 when Danzig factory was disma .Click for more info Seller: David Condon, Inc. Area Code: 540 Americans who would not think of using a low number Springfield 1903 with modern ammunition, will unhesitatingly so use this old German type which was built while our Army was still using black powder single shot rifles! For most gun collectors, the era of sporting bolt rifles began with the Mauser 98. ._1x9diBHPBP-hL1JiwUwJ5J{font-size:14px;font-weight:500;line-height:18px;color:#ff585b;padding-left:3px;padding-right:24px}._2B0OHMLKb9TXNdd9g5Ere-,._1xKxnscCn2PjBiXhorZef4{height:16px;padding-right:4px;vertical-align:top}.icon._1LLqoNXrOsaIkMtOuTBmO5{height:20px;vertical-align:middle;padding-right:8px}.QB2Yrr8uihZVRhvwrKuMS{height:18px;padding-right:8px;vertical-align:top}._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0{font-size:14px;font-weight:500;line-height:18px;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)}._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0 ._1LLqoNXrOsaIkMtOuTBmO5,._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0 ._2B0OHMLKb9TXNdd9g5Ere-,._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0 ._1xKxnscCn2PjBiXhorZef4,._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0 .QB2Yrr8uihZVRhvwrKuMS{fill:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)} High performance and hence high pressure or military ammunition designated for machine gun use cannot be fired safely in a Gewehr 88 commission rifle. The last time they saw action in Chinese service was during the Korean War, where some of them were captured and taken to the US as souvenirs.[14]. There are no makers names externally anywhere I can find on the gun. Gewehr 88 rifles have been used widely during post World War I revolutions, uprisings and wars (on both sides of the Russian Civil War, the German Revolution of 191819, the Revolutions and interventions in Hungary (191820), the Greater Poland Uprising (191819), the Silesian Uprisings, the Turkish War of Independence, the PolishSoviet War,[8] by the Ulster Volunteers and by Lithuanians in the Lithuanian Wars of Independence). for the pointed nose. Tags: None. Beautiful. I'm planning on building at least one Gew 88 sporter rifle I got from Centerfire and I was just wondering if anyone has done a Gew 88 sporter before. This was really a short rifle. /*# sourceMappingURL=https://www.redditstatic.com/desktop2x/chunkCSS/IdCard.ea0ac1df4e6491a16d39_.css.map*/._2JU2WQDzn5pAlpxqChbxr7{height:16px;margin-right:8px;width:16px}._3E45je-29yDjfFqFcLCXyH{margin-top:16px}._13YtS_rCnVZG1ns2xaCalg{font-family:Noto Sans,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-weight:400;line-height:18px;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex}._1m5fPZN4q3vKVg9SgU43u2{margin-top:12px}._17A-IdW3j1_fI_pN-8tMV-{display:inline-block;margin-bottom:8px;margin-right:5px}._5MIPBF8A9vXwwXFumpGqY{border-radius:20px;font-size:12px;font-weight:500;letter-spacing:0;line-height:16px;padding:3px 10px;text-transform:none}._5MIPBF8A9vXwwXFumpGqY:focus{outline:unset} Rifles. Although the packet loading system proved to be a design shortcoming, it is not uncommon to encounter a Gewehr 88 today which still retains it. Among these developments was the famous round that the Germans introduced in the Gewehr 88: the famous "Patronen 7.92x57mm" that today we call the "8mm Mauser." . Yes the newer guns may shoot accurately but holding a piece of plasticky stocked junk made mostly of stamped sheet metal and junk castings its enough to make a brass monkey puke providing you are one of those rare old time individuals that actually understands what goes into the making of a quality firearm. I try to be as independent a "do it yourselfer" as I can on principle - if I'm not learning how to do something new its not worth the time investment. Dont try to shoot modern 8x57 in it until you figure it out. Golf and guns (but cattle pay the bills)

And I'm still waiting for my well to come in, guns (duh, ya think? Kyle you're fooling with a weapon contrived in black powder era and obselete by WW 1. Fahrradfabrik] in Suhl on a Gewehr Model 1888 Commission action. I also have a Turk converted 88 I bought in the 70's for 30 or 35 bucks. Sometimes you get close enough that it's really satisfying which only makes the addiction stronger! The German sporting rifle cartridge for the 1888 is known as the 857 rimless. The actual caliber is commonly about 7.9 mm, that being the usual German War Office designation for the old M. A 9.3 x 57 would be a VERY cool large mammal thumper. I have an extra Gew receiver sitting around that I may actually try heat treating. LOEWES GEWEHR 88 - C53931 7.92x57mm Mauser; 5% blue, fair bore, good stock, 29'' barrel, MODEL 1888 COMMISSION RIFLE. I bought one about 5 years ago for 600. 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In recognition of these factors, manufacturers in recent years have seldom loaded the M. 1888 type cartridge to give a pressure much higher than 35,000 pounds, using a relatively soft bullet. 98 as modified for them are reproduced herewith. but for these why not use a turk kkale 8mm barrel, it needs to be modified a little to fit but will correct the diameter issues and make a good, unique, cheap, brush gun. In conclusion old time real hunters understood wild game habits and used to actually stalk up to ranges as close as 25 yards. C.G. There were too many importers at this end, too many small gunmakers at the other end, and far too many variations in between. 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Haenal7mm-1.jpg Haenal7mm-2.jpg Haenal7mm-3.jpg Haenal7mm-4.jpg Haenal7mm-5.jpg. Snipers Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. Share. Get the latest news and reviews from Gundigest.com. Many came home In 1945 as war trophies. Email; Twitter; Facebook; Google + Pinterest; Tumblr; Linkedin Never got to shoot it First time this old girls been shot in at least 100 years. I have a Schilling made rifle also in9x57. If it's a big thumper you want then the 9.3x57 is just the ticket. Pictures are too poor for me to tell if it is or not but it looks like it may be. provided the existing twist rate worked for the final product. It was designed by the German Army's Rifle Testing Commission, and combined elements of Mauser and Mannlicher rifle design. Isidor Loewe also held a controlling interest in the Waffenfabrik Mauser. The second was slightly shorter and had a stock which came to the muzzle. This was used in 1892 by the then notorious anti-Semitic agitator Hermann Ahlwardt, member of the German Reichstag, to spread an anti-semitic conspiracy theory. $131.00 + $29.99 shipping . deepen the grooves to the desired bore diameter. 06-02-2016, 06:47 PM. These in 7.92x57i. Right now I'm thinking that whatever caliber I keep it in will be based on the x57 case to insure the rifle won't have trouble feeding the rounds. The barrel design and rifling were virtually copied from the French Lebel. But, as Bilurey said, getting someone to do the work could be problematic at best. After the start of World War 1, some of the remaining Gewehr 88 S rifles were modified to the Gewehr 88/14 standard, which was generally similar to Gewehr 88/05 but with cruder workmanship. Modern hunters make statements like I always blast away at 1,000 yards as it eliminates that sneaking up bit some people call hunting Spoken like a true slob modern hunter. 1b)", http://www.wildlife-baldus.com/download/Maji_Maji.pdf, http://www.fhhljx.com/thefreelibrary/Russian+rifles+of+the+great+war,+revolution+%26+civil+war--part+I%3A-a0391733875, "Weapons Of The Greco-Turkish War Part 2", "Three members of the Ethiopian Zabagna, or gendarmerie, photographed about the time of the Italian invasion in the fall of 1935 [721 x 807]: HistoryPorn", "Repblica Armas Infantera Fusiles", "The rifles of Israel 1948-1980 - Israel Military Forum", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gewehr_1888&oldid=1122884205, Weapons and ammunition introduced in 1888, Articles with German-language sources (de), All articles with bare URLs for citations, Articles with bare URLs for citations from March 2022, Articles with PDF format bare URLs for citations, Short description is different from Wikidata, Pages using infobox weapon with unknown parameters, Articles with unsourced statements from January 2021, Articles with unsourced statements from November 2022, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0. If cost is the motivation then the very best thing you can do for yourself from both a cost standpoint and a safety standpoint is leave it as-is with the issue barrel and shoot remington factory ammo. Haenel GEW-88 - 8x57JR Pre-War Sporter Description: 24" 1/2 round - 1/2 octogon, raised brass blade front, 1 standong, 1 folding rear, full raised rib bbl., double set triggers, 4 rd. The first importer of Haenel-Mannlichers was Oscar Hesse of New Jersey, who began bringing them into the U.S. in 1894. Everything good and modern occurred after that, they believe, and nothing much before. The Gewehr 88 (commonly called the Model 1888 commission rifle) was a late 19th-century German bolt-action rifle, adopted in 1888. box magazine, spoon Mauser bolt, 28 line fancy German sporter round knob stock, creseant steel butt, schnobel forend, 3/4" European leather sling strap, many . I'm thinking something like 8mm rem mag might even be a possibility. Should I go for it? If I use the original barrel I can just cut off the first inch of the barrel jacket, screw it on and solder it or something to provide a solid base. I'm a CNC machine operator at a metal shop specializing in precision machining so I'm thinking it may be possible to do it at work??? Some idea of the number of these rifles made may be gained from the fact that in the year 1890 to 1891, Ludwig Loewe & Company supplied 425,000 model 1888 rifles to the German Army alone. If all the mount are old and scape too can be worth a decent amount. It must definitely be remembered, however, that these rifles were intended for the 7.92mm cartridge in its original form. @keyframes _1tIZttmhLdrIGrB-6VvZcT{0%{opacity:0}to{opacity:1}}._3uK2I0hi3JFTKnMUFHD2Pd,.HQ2VJViRjokXpRbJzPvvc{--infoTextTooltip-overflow-left:0px;font-size:12px;font-weight:500;line-height:16px;padding:3px 9px;position:absolute;border-radius:4px;margin-top:-6px;background:#000;color:#fff;animation:_1tIZttmhLdrIGrB-6VvZcT .5s step-end;z-index:100;white-space:pre-wrap}._3uK2I0hi3JFTKnMUFHD2Pd:after,.HQ2VJViRjokXpRbJzPvvc:after{content:"";position:absolute;top:100%;left:calc(50% - 4px - var(--infoTextTooltip-overflow-left));width:0;height:0;border-top:3px solid #000;border-left:4px solid transparent;border-right:4px solid transparent}._3uK2I0hi3JFTKnMUFHD2Pd{margin-top:6px}._3uK2I0hi3JFTKnMUFHD2Pd:after{border-bottom:3px solid #000;border-top:none;bottom:100%;top:auto} Note also that the Austrian 8mm Mannlicher-Schoenauer is an entirely different cartridge from either one of the German. Schilling j bore that I stupidly sold. $58.00 + $10.00 shipping . The barrel shroud was not only possessed . (Antique) Excellent condition! Czech Sellier & Bellot makes excellent high-power ammunition hunting ammunition for the S-bore 8mm Mausers, good for deer, bear and elk when fired from the modern K98k rifles.. Of course one can handload for the Mauser to get optimal performance from the 8mm S bore Mauser. The front action screw actually goes into a hole in the very back of the barrel jacket and if I get a new barrel it might not be the right size to fit the end peice of the barrel jacket over. I cannot understand how Von Mannlicher name could be associated with the gewehr M1888 since decades. Amberg GEW88. These rifles were also used by the German Volkssturm in 19441945. Early German Bolt-Action Sporters Set a Standard, Video: Richard Mann on the Mozambique Drill, 8 On-Target Concealed Carry Insurance Options (2022), 10 Affordable Double-Barrel Shotgun Options (2022), Best AR-15 Options For Any Budget And Buyers Guide (2022), Best Concealed Carry Handguns For Women (2022). The Gewehr 88 was also sometimes made into very elegant sporting rifles by gunsmiths in Germany. Antique. I seem to recall an ad in Shotgun News for a VCR tape demonstrating how to build a rifling machine. This is something we need to do to continue using our email system. One of my older loading manuals had data specifically for the Gew 88's. Firearms manufactured at sterreichische Waffenfabriksgesellschaft /, harvnb error: no target: CITEREFWessels2000 (, preventing the barrel from directly contacting the stock, Revolutions and interventions in Hungary (191820), 857mm IS cartridge portrait Totgesagte leben lnger, Wild und Hund 11/2006, "ZEIT ONLINE | Lesen Sie zeit.de mit Werbung oder im PUR-Abo. $149.90. Founded by Frank Galli in 2000, Snipers Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to its users in one location. 88 that was professionally refinished, touting a double set trigger operation, beautiful sporter stock and about 90% of its current blue finish remaining and should make for a great conversation piece. Haenel, the primary private contractor, developed a line of improved models ranging from nicely made to gorgeous - but never chambered in the higher intensity modern loads. In response the German Army's Rifle Testing Commission developed the Gewehr 88 which was adopted for service in 1888. Amberg GEW 88 Commision Mauser rifle. This rifle is in pretty good shape externally, save for a splinter out of the forend on the left side, which I shall have fixed. I'm not using an 88 just because I really want an 88 sporter. The following information on the Gewehr 88 Carbine comes from Chapter 12 of Mauser Rifles and Pistols by W. H. B. Smith. just remember the limitations of each action. The difficult part would be figuring-out how to rifle it. The invention of smokeless powder in the late 19th century immediately rendered all of the large-bore black powder rifles then in use obsolete. One was the rifle itself cut down 10.5 inches and with the bolt handle bent down somewhat. The combined plants capacity was 60,000 rifles per month. I have hunted both deer and boar with mine. Making the world a better place to live in. In general, yes, a Kar 88 or Gew 88. My guess is the that the old German gunsmiths made a spacer to cover the threads or just cut the old threaded part of the barrel shoud off and used that. From 1905 the rifles were also converted to use the Gewehr 98 type stripper clip by adding stripper clip guides to the top rear of the receiver and altering the magazine becoming Gewehr 88/05 rifles. I'll try to use the original barrel if possible (since a new barrel would be several times the cost of the entire rifle) and do most or all of the work myself. 1888 GEW GERMAN COMMISSION GEWEHR 88 Walnut wood STOCK w/rear swivel & frnt bnd . Haenel. Kyle, Send me your name & address so I can take out some insurance on you. .LalRrQILNjt65y-p-QlWH{fill:var(--newRedditTheme-actionIcon);height:18px;width:18px}.LalRrQILNjt65y-p-QlWH rect{stroke:var(--newRedditTheme-metaText)}._3J2-xIxxxP9ISzeLWCOUVc{height:18px}.FyLpt0kIWG1bTDWZ8HIL1{margin-top:4px}._2ntJEAiwKXBGvxrJiqxx_2,._1SqBC7PQ5dMOdF0MhPIkA8{vertical-align:middle}._1SqBC7PQ5dMOdF0MhPIkA8{-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center;display:-ms-inline-flexbox;display:inline-flex;-ms-flex-direction:row;flex-direction:row;-ms-flex-pack:center;justify-content:center} It has a receiver with a "split bridge" (i.e., the bolt passes through the receiver and locks in front of the rear bridge); a rotating bolt head; and the characteristic Mannlicher-style "packet loading" or "en-bloc" system in which cartridges are loaded into a steel carrier (an en bloc clip) which is inserted into the magazine, where it holds the cartridges in alignment over a spring. Any idea on where I could get a 9.3 barrel? Most all the 88 J-bore Commission rifles were converted to S-bore size and have worked well enuff during and since ww1. You will find early Mannlichers from Steyr as well as German and Austrian custom makers, and you will find custom-ordered takedown rifles and modified Gewehr 88s. After 1895 most Gewehr 1888 rifles were regrooved. 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The first step was to select a new cartridge. There fine old rifles are almost exclusively a collectors item and not shooters. [15] These were likely intended for sale in South America, where use of the 757mm cartridge was widespread. While the majority were chambered for the standard military 857 cartridge (usually the original .318 bullet, rather than the later .323) they were also offered in pure hunting cartridges like the 957. HONORS [+] Ribbon graphics not necessarily indicative of actual historical campaign ribbons. I've done some projects that people with more experience questioned, , and I appreciate the questioning it got me to look for answers to questions I could'nt come up with myself, so i'm not trying to change your mind. Was the spacer threaded or just a simple collar? Certainly enjoy the 1888 sporters like yours. That said, it sounds like you are adamant about using the 88 as a basis for a sporter. [13], China also used this rifle extensively during the Qing dynasty and the Republican era. This brings us back to the two major reasons there is only minor collector interest in these rifles. This piece could be removed during disassembly, and was frequently lost. ._12xlue8dQ1odPw1J81FIGQ{display:inline-block;vertical-align:middle} One like yours one with a claw mounts scope. In 1903, the Germany Army adopted a new service cartridge that fired lighter bullets measuring 8.20mm (.323 in) in diameter. I bet you could rig something up to produce a nice smooth bore. #5937; 8x57 in sporter condition receiver is Erfurt 1890 dated.
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